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Specific driving anxiety
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Zurich
2005-02-13 23:54:43 UTC
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I live in a mountain town (5000') and am 45 years old. I grew up in
Texas, where all the roads are left or right; definitely not up or down
or curvy.

In order to get to my husbands workplace and the the closest city
(hospitals, shopping, doctors, etc.), I have to drive a 25-mile stretch
of road that includes extreme curves without railings and vertical
drop-offs.

When I drive this road, I feel as if I am going to fly off the road. If
I could drive this road at 30-40 miles an hour I think I could do it,
with pauses. But that is not feasible, obviously. I find myself pulling
over often to wait for traffic to go on by or simply to re-regulate my
breathing.Also, when I am in the car with someone else on this road(or
any other with similar curves and drop-offs), any speed over 55 mph
freaks me out and I feel, again, like we are going to fly off.

Will psycho/hypno therapy work?

Thanks,
Mia
B.G. Kent
2005-02-16 02:17:22 UTC
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It may. It sounds as if you have a visual vertigo to me. I have this and
it is this that causes the panic disorder.

I have to have perpendicular angles near me or else I feel as if I am
flying up or going upside down.


Just a thot.


Bren



On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Zurich
Post by Zurich
I live in a mountain town (5000') and am 45 years old. I grew up in
Texas, where all the roads are left or right; definitely not up or down
or curvy.
In order to get to my husbands workplace and the the closest city
(hospitals, shopping, doctors, etc.), I have to drive a 25-mile stretch
of road that includes extreme curves without railings and vertical
drop-offs.
When I drive this road, I feel as if I am going to fly off the road. If
I could drive this road at 30-40 miles an hour I think I could do it,
with pauses. But that is not feasible, obviously. I find myself pulling
over often to wait for traffic to go on by or simply to re-regulate my
breathing.Also, when I am in the car with someone else on this road(or
any other with similar curves and drop-offs), any speed over 55 mph
freaks me out and I feel, again, like we are going to fly off.
Will psycho/hypno therapy work?
Thanks,
Mia
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In Amen
2005-02-21 18:04:59 UTC
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Post by Zurich
I live in a mountain town (5000') and am 45 years old. I grew up in
Texas, where all the roads are left or right; definitely not up or down
or curvy.
In order to get to my husbands workplace and the the closest city
(hospitals, shopping, doctors, etc.), I have to drive a 25-mile stretch
of road that includes extreme curves without railings and vertical
drop-offs.
When I drive this road, I feel as if I am going to fly off the road. If
I could drive this road at 30-40 miles an hour I think I could do it,
with pauses. But that is not feasible, obviously. I find myself pulling
over often to wait for traffic to go on by or simply to re-regulate my
breathing.Also, when I am in the car with someone else on this road(or
any other with similar curves and drop-offs), any speed over 55 mph
freaks me out and I feel, again, like we are going to fly off.
Will psycho/hypno therapy work?
Thanks,
Mia
How many times have you traveled on that road so far?
It's not abnormal to have such fear. Certain fears
are there for a purpose.
Are you driving a vehicle that is properly maintained and
has good tires? Or an old wreck?
Mary
2005-02-21 19:48:05 UTC
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Post by Zurich
I live in a mountain town (5000') and am 45 years old. I grew up in
Texas, where all the roads are left or right; definitely not up or down
or curvy.
In order to get to my husbands workplace and the the closest city
(hospitals, shopping, doctors, etc.), I have to drive a 25-mile stretch
of road that includes extreme curves without railings and vertical
drop-offs.
When I drive this road, I feel as if I am going to fly off the road. If
I could drive this road at 30-40 miles an hour I think I could do it,
with pauses. But that is not feasible, obviously. I find myself pulling
over often to wait for traffic to go on by or simply to re-regulate my
breathing.Also, when I am in the car with someone else on this road(or
any other with similar curves and drop-offs), any speed over 55 mph
freaks me out and I feel, again, like we are going to fly off.
Will psycho/hypno therapy work?
Mia, I lurk in here once in a while. You sound like you have a driving
phobia. I can understand the feeling completely. Sometimes I feel
similar like the cars are crowding me out. Did some driving experience
cause this to start ?
I developed a driving phobia two years ago when I had really severe
vertigo attack while driving my car. Luckily it was in the city, and not
highway. It gave me a phobia when driving in the city and after that I
have felt very lightheaded and feel like cars are closing in on me . I
tend to drive in the inside lane most of the time, due to the back of my
mind fear that I might have vertigo again. Its especially bad when I
have to stop at traffic lights. I feel I might faint.I still drive and
Previous to this, I hadn't driven on the highway for a few years, as its
too busy with many big trucks and though I didn't have an outright
phobia. I had some anxiety, so I avoided it, and don't regret it one
bit.
I don't go to a phychiatrist because I don't feel the motivation and
have other health issues taking priority right now. I occasionally take
a small amount of Xanax which sometimes helps, sometimes not, but many
people are helped by it. I was going to my GP on a regular basis for
talk therapy which helped, but don't feel as much desire to go now. Some
suggestiions: You might go to your GP for a referral to a psychiatrist
or psychologist preferably trained in anxiety therapy, but since that
can often be hard to find, maybe even "just" a regular psychiatrist who
you can relate to and like. Cognitive therapy helps many people, though
not everyone. Another place to start is to get an excellent book by
Edmund Bourne's book "The Anxiety and phobia workbook". You can get it
in the library if you can't find it in a book store. You don't have to
do written exercises if you don't want to, but the book is very
comprehensive and explains everything about anxiety. Its the best book
I've seen on anxiety and phobias. Explains what can cause it, how to
deal with it, whether to take medications, what treatment to get. Some
people also like "Feeling Good" book by David Burns. Hope this helps.

Mary
Mary
2005-02-21 19:52:31 UTC
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I also meant to mention in my message, that there are two other anxiety
newsgroups, which are more active than this one, which you might want to
check out - alt.support.anxiety-panic and
alt.support.anxiety-panic.moderated - you might want to check both these
groups to see the various topics and messages.

Mary
Post by Zurich
Post by Zurich
I live in a mountain town (5000') and am 45 years old. I grew up in
Texas, where all the roads are left or right; definitely not up or
down
Post by Zurich
or curvy.
In order to get to my husbands workplace and the the closest city
(hospitals, shopping, doctors, etc.), I have to drive a 25-mile
stretch
Post by Zurich
of road that includes extreme curves without railings and vertical
drop-offs.
When I drive this road, I feel as if I am going to fly off the road.
If
Post by Zurich
I could drive this road at 30-40 miles an hour I think I could do it,
with pauses. But that is not feasible, obviously. I find myself
pulling
Post by Zurich
over often to wait for traffic to go on by or simply to re-regulate my
breathing.Also, when I am in the car with someone else on this road(or
any other with similar curves and drop-offs), any speed over 55 mph
freaks me out and I feel, again, like we are going to fly off.
Will psycho/hypno therapy work?
Mia, I lurk in here once in a while. You sound like you have a driving
phobia. I can understand the feeling completely. Sometimes I feel
similar like the cars are crowding me out. Did some driving experience
cause this to start ?
I developed a driving phobia two years ago when I had really severe
vertigo attack while driving my car. Luckily it was in the city, and not
highway. It gave me a phobia when driving in the city and after that I
have felt very lightheaded and feel like cars are closing in on me . I
tend to drive in the inside lane most of the time, due to the back of my
mind fear that I might have vertigo again. Its especially bad when I
have to stop at traffic lights. I feel I might faint.I still drive and
Previous to this, I hadn't driven on the highway for a few years, as its
too busy with many big trucks and though I didn't have an outright
phobia. I had some anxiety, so I avoided it, and don't regret it one
bit.
I don't go to a phychiatrist because I don't feel the motivation and
have other health issues taking priority right now. I occasionally take
a small amount of Xanax which sometimes helps, sometimes not, but many
people are helped by it. I was going to my GP on a regular basis for
talk therapy which helped, but don't feel as much desire to go now. Some
suggestiions: You might go to your GP for a referral to a psychiatrist
or psychologist preferably trained in anxiety therapy, but since that
can often be hard to find, maybe even "just" a regular psychiatrist who
you can relate to and like. Cognitive therapy helps many people, though
not everyone. Another place to start is to get an excellent book by
Edmund Bourne's book "The Anxiety and phobia workbook". You can get it
in the library if you can't find it in a book store. You don't have to
do written exercises if you don't want to, but the book is very
comprehensive and explains everything about anxiety. Its the best book
I've seen on anxiety and phobias. Explains what can cause it, how to
deal with it, whether to take medications, what treatment to get. Some
people also like "Feeling Good" book by David Burns. Hope this helps.
Mary
Kim
2005-02-23 18:30:04 UTC
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Hi Mary

What you said in your previous mail makes so much sense to me now. I wonder
I didn't have a vertigo attack.
Lately I'm scared of driving specifically a long drive to work and sometimes
when I stop I feel faint. It also sometimes feels when I stop my car as if
the car is moving backwards. Never knew one could get a vertigo attack from
driving - thought only from heights and flying. Can you give me more
details.

Thanks a stack.

Kim
Post by Mary
I also meant to mention in my message, that there are two other anxiety
newsgroups, which are more active than this one, which you might want to
check out - alt.support.anxiety-panic and
alt.support.anxiety-panic.moderated - you might want to check both these
groups to see the various topics and messages.
Mary
Post by Zurich
Post by Zurich
I live in a mountain town (5000') and am 45 years old. I grew up in
Texas, where all the roads are left or right; definitely not up or
down
Post by Zurich
or curvy.
In order to get to my husbands workplace and the the closest city
(hospitals, shopping, doctors, etc.), I have to drive a 25-mile
stretch
Post by Zurich
of road that includes extreme curves without railings and vertical
drop-offs.
When I drive this road, I feel as if I am going to fly off the road.
If
Post by Zurich
I could drive this road at 30-40 miles an hour I think I could do
it,
Post by Zurich
Post by Zurich
with pauses. But that is not feasible, obviously. I find myself
pulling
Post by Zurich
over often to wait for traffic to go on by or simply to re-regulate
my
Post by Zurich
Post by Zurich
breathing.Also, when I am in the car with someone else on this
road(or
Post by Zurich
Post by Zurich
any other with similar curves and drop-offs), any speed over 55 mph
freaks me out and I feel, again, like we are going to fly off.
Will psycho/hypno therapy work?
Mia, I lurk in here once in a while. You sound like you have a driving
phobia. I can understand the feeling completely. Sometimes I feel
similar like the cars are crowding me out. Did some driving experience
cause this to start ?
I developed a driving phobia two years ago when I had really severe
vertigo attack while driving my car. Luckily it was in the city, and
not
Post by Zurich
highway. It gave me a phobia when driving in the city and after that I
have felt very lightheaded and feel like cars are closing in on me . I
tend to drive in the inside lane most of the time, due to the back of
my
Post by Zurich
mind fear that I might have vertigo again. Its especially bad when I
have to stop at traffic lights. I feel I might faint.I still drive
and
Post by Zurich
Previous to this, I hadn't driven on the highway for a few years, as
its
Post by Zurich
too busy with many big trucks and though I didn't have an outright
phobia. I had some anxiety, so I avoided it, and don't regret it one
bit.
I don't go to a phychiatrist because I don't feel the motivation and
have other health issues taking priority right now. I occasionally
take
Post by Zurich
a small amount of Xanax which sometimes helps, sometimes not, but many
people are helped by it. I was going to my GP on a regular basis for
talk therapy which helped, but don't feel as much desire to go now.
Some
Post by Zurich
suggestiions: You might go to your GP for a referral to a psychiatrist
or psychologist preferably trained in anxiety therapy, but since that
can often be hard to find, maybe even "just" a regular psychiatrist
who
Post by Zurich
you can relate to and like. Cognitive therapy helps many people,
though
Post by Zurich
not everyone. Another place to start is to get an excellent book by
Edmund Bourne's book "The Anxiety and phobia workbook". You can get it
in the library if you can't find it in a book store. You don't have to
do written exercises if you don't want to, but the book is very
comprehensive and explains everything about anxiety. Its the best book
I've seen on anxiety and phobias. Explains what can cause it, how to
deal with it, whether to take medications, what treatment to get. Some
people also like "Feeling Good" book by David Burns. Hope this helps.
Mary
Mary
2005-02-23 19:39:10 UTC
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Post by Kim
Hi Mary
What you said in your previous mail makes so much sense to me now. I wonder
I didn't have a vertigo attack.
Hi Kim,
Believe me if you had a vertigo attack, its like nothing you have ever
had before and you would know it was something very out of the ordinary
and very frightening.
Post by Kim
Lately I'm scared of driving specifically a long drive to work and sometimes
when I stop I feel faint. It also sometimes feels when I stop my car as if
the car is moving backwards. Never knew one could get a vertigo attack from
driving - thought only from heights and flying.
The vertigo attack was not caused by driving. Something caused the
vertigo and I just happened to be driving. It was just coincidence. I
was not anxious in any way that day and had never had vertigo before. I
remember that day very well and I had no anxiety, and I have driven for
40 years and never had anxiety when driving. True, I felt nervous on the
highway, but if you saw the traffic on the highway here, it would make
anyone nervous, though not as bad as me. But I never had any anxiety
when driving in the city till that day when the vertigo happened. It
happened out of nowhere. Its not like something I would even think
about. I didn't even know what it was.

Can you give me more
Post by Kim
details.
Well, in my case, (can't speak for anyone else), no doctors could figure
out exactly what caused my vertigo attack, but I asked all of them if
they thought it could be anxiety, though I've never had vertigo before,
but they said it was very rare to get vertigo from anxiety, and did not
think it was that. They all thought it had to do with crystals in the
inner ear that some people can get, mainly when you are older (I am in
my late 50's), and that can cause vertigo which can be from minutes to
hours apparently. Mine lasted about 3-4 minutes but seemed like an
eternigy. Vertigo is nothing even close to feeling faint. I have had
faint feelings since that vertigo attack which was a little over two
years ago, and its a piece of cake compared to vertigo. I had never had
vertigo before and it was the most frightening experience I ever had. I
felt something was pressing down on the top of my head and everything
was spinning around like I was upside down and over to the right, over
to the left, etc. I was driving so quickly pulled in to a small plaza,
and luckily I was driving in the city and lucky that there was somewhere
to pull into. I had about 5 seconds to react or definitely someone would
have banged into the back of my car or I would have banged into a car in
front of me. I was so disoriented, I was able to put the car in park
with great difficulty but was not able to get out of the car. I had to
honk the car horn to attract attention as I was so frightened. I thought
for sure I was having a stroke. There's a lot more to it, but enough to
say I went to a walk in doctor and he said he thought from my symptoms
that it was an inner ear problem. After that, I was referred to two
neurologists and an ear specialist. they all said inner ear. One
neurologist did say there is a very small possibility of it being the
aura part of migraine, which I've had since my 20's but I've never had
that symptom before, so I doubt it was that. I had vertigo again a year
and a half ago when on holiday in the UK and it was bad as I was sitting
in a friends home, and again I had it a year ago in my own apartment.
But it was the first vertigo that caused me to have the driving phobia.
Its too bad it happened when I was driving, or my anxiety when driving
would probably never have developed the way it did.

This is not something I really like to talk about now, but I just wanted
to let you know that there is a huge difference between feeling faint or
even feeling dizzy, than vertigo. I've had them all, and I would take
feeling faint and dizzy 100 times over one attack of vertigo.

Mary
Biabe
2005-03-26 05:22:54 UTC
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I have the feeling psycho will work! They can assist your way of thinking
when you use that road!

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